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IEP and 504 Issues and Questions

Told “no,” “not necessary,” or “we don’t do that”? Post exactly what the school said and get parent input on next steps.

  1. Started by Backroads,

    Not a current situation I'm in, just going through the thoughts of theoreticals from a Reddit thread. I know what the school pays for any aides, technologies, etc. But what about the smaller things? Like, if students are supposed to get rewards to help with goals, or have wiggle chairs or chair bands? In the Reddit conversation, teachers were complaining about having to buy those with their personal money, but I've also never heard of those being paid for via the IEP. I hate the idea of teachers having to pay for everything, but to some extent it feels like paying for some of it is just part of the job expectations. Or are parents supposed to send those in?

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  2. Started by Niki81,

    I've only ever seen motor skills and OT/PT related to younger students. How do you approach a high school regarding a teen who is unable to participate fully in Phys Ed due to symptoms of a gene mutation? She is required to get PE credits for graduation but is not participating in the class. Mostly sitting on the bench. She will get credit but she isn't receiving physical education (and her PT/OT is outside school). I've read about Adaptive PE for autistic students who also have low muscle tone but can't find anything that applies to students who need modification for similar physical needs only. Student lives in TN and previously had an IEP but mo…

  3. Started by M J,

    This is something I have not been able to find information tied to anywhere. If there is, please direct me to the information. 🙂 A little background information tied to our situation I think will help: Our son is extremely intelligent yet suffers from processing speed issues in certain areas. Personality-wise he tends to view everything as black and white. He is extremely athletic as well and has a 3.8 GPA. He is 16 years old and has had an IEP/ISP in place since he was 11. Overall, it has allowed him the extra time he needs when doing certain things. This year we have run into major issues tied to sports. During the first two years in high school, he was able …

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  4. Started by AutMomJ314,

    Is it ok for a goal to be measured "by staff observation" only? For example: By the end of the 9 weeks, he will follow staff directives 80% of charted opportunities. Success will be measured using staff observation. If it's legit, I digress. Doesn't please though. I will ask for something more concrete, but still want to know in your opinion if it's acceptable. THANKS

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  5. Started by LoChap5,

    What are the differences between 504 & IEP? I read that in Mississippi a hearing impairment automatically qualifies a student for a 504. My son has always had an IEP. The school has never mentioned anything about the 504.

  6. And if so, is it considered a reasonable accommodation? In the casual world, I've heard various complaints about IEP accommodations assigning another student to help them. Some say it stresses the student helper out too much, and even one story said the parent pulled the kid from school as the kid shouldn't be doing a teacher or para's job. But it's also seemed a good idea in popularity fit quite some time, so what's the current view?

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  7. I know, I know, I'm supposed to want recess for my child. I even read the article about fighting for recess. Intellectually, I know it's important. But with the new school year approaching, I am seriously considering looking into getting recess skipped for my child. She will be in the third grade. My state is very pro-recess and has it included in state law. It's also part of, by not only the teacher's union contract and state public employee law, the teacher's duty-free break time. The thing is, my daughter hates recess. We've tried a lot. Efforts to have kids include her and teach her games (the kids are great, really, but my daughter isn't interested). A cou…

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  8. Started by Smiley74,

    When talking about ADHD medications what are the pro/con of medicating the day of the test versus not? Not medicating-Will make a "controllable" diagnosis show up and since school districts now have to address the diagnosis even if mitigating measures are in place that diminishes the effect of the disability, it can be addressed as there may be days when medication is forgotten, etc. 42 U.S.C. § 12102(4)(E)(i). Medicating-The effects of a primary known disability that medication mitigates could bring an unknown secondary disability to the forefront that has been masked Is there a firm rule on when to medicate and when not to? Does it matter only on IQ test…

  9. Started by Catherine NYC,

    Hi - I have a 14 yr old son with ADHD (inattentive type) and I am looking for a list of possible homework accommodations that have been used by others in a NYC public school successfully. Has anyone had success getting all their kids work listed on Google Classroom? Last year, teachers did not "check in" homework during class time so I would only find out it had not been completed when his grades were posted a week-ish later. Is this normal? I think we need immediate notification if he doesn't hand in the work. And he needs to do it at school that day or have a plan. Anyone had success with a homework schedule from the teachers? I asked last year and was …

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  10. Started by starlight970,

    My child already has an IEP in place. I am struggling in advocating for them as they having a hard time in the mainstream class setting but they are above grade level academically. They are too young for any kind of Gifted and Talented style program. They have delays in their emotional regulation and their social skills with peers. I have requested for BIP's in the past but have been in a stand still on them. They are diagnosed with ADHD and high levels of anxiety. I don't know if it is my own anxiety but I am hitting an absolute wall into what is reasonable to ask for. My child is bored in class. Homework is a challenge because they find everything extremely easy an…

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  11. Started by Melinda,

    Private school lowers grades when students are given modifications to curriculum. If modified 20% best student can make is a B and if modified 70% a C. They will not give support to a student if you don't sign a contract to give lower grades. Is this legal? Help

  12. Like I said, I'm a general teacher. Happy to do whatever my role is. However, this year I have a parent who had a bad experience with the SPED team at her kid's last school and said she wants as little to do with them as possible. I've notified the sped team and they're trying to be as great as they can, but the parent is resistant. She says she wants all services and communication to come through me. Is this a reasonable request?

  13. Started by anniempape,

    My daughter is currently on a 504 plan. She is homebound because of debilitating anxiety around school. Ironically she is a brilliant actor and singer and participates in the school theater productions. She just finished up Cinderella a few weeks ago (she played Cinderella!). (Acting is easy for her because they tell her what to say, when to say it, how to say it, where to move, etc. It’s predictable so it’s safe.) The next show is starting right after the holidays. The school is now trying to give me the line that “if she’s too anxious to come to school then she’s too anxious to participate in extra curricular activities.” They say if I don’t have her start at least half…

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  14. In PA, does a diagnosis (say dyslexia) a documented thru nueropsych/academic testing, can scjool tefuae a 504 or IEP request and only offer RTI reading support (pull out small group to the reading specialist)? As a side note, district does NOT use the RTI model to identify SLDs-they use discrepancy model.

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  15. Started by Darcy,

    Hello, A parent reached out to me for support but the school is saying a bunch of things I've never heard of so I wanted to reach out to others for input. This parent's child attended school "A". At school A in Jan. 2024, the school switched him from an IEP to a 504 plan. The parent said she disagreed with this but the school did it anyway. They never came up with a 504 plan so she has no documentation. The child now goes to school "B". School be is saying the child must be on the 504 plan for a year before he is allowed to get his IEP back. The school is not implementing or even has a 504 plan yet. The child is having a ton of issues with behavior, no skill b…

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  16. Hi. My High School Junior daughter was diagnosed with ADHD last year. We have finally gotten the school to do a 504 process. I am looking for accommodations that have been effective for your high school-age student. Since she was diagnosed so recently, she has not had the benefit of training/teachings from a younger age. To top that off, she is a super-sociable teenager who will anyway be distracted by other distractions. Almost all accommodation examples I see seem more effective for younger children, not her age/school. e.g. "Break down tasks in smaller chunks." Is this meaningful to ask for at 11th grade? I am also worried that with too much adult intervention (…

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  17. Started by Laura Honey,

    What should and should not be included on the profile page of an IEP?

  18. My son is in 7th grade and having a psychoeducational evaluation done. He just exited an IOP (Intensive Outpatient Program) for depression and anxiety. He was in the program for 2 months. He currently has a 504 plan for ADHD and anxiety, but things have gotten significantly worse since school began this fall. He has meetings with the school adjustment counselor to work on anxiety in his 504, but the school psychologist thought it made sense to do a psychoed eval where his mental health has been so poor. He is exceeding grade level expectations academically so I feel like we're not going to get anything out of this AND he may be further triggered by the evaluation. He…

  19. First off I am mentally drained. My child is a literal and often very inflexible thinker. 7 years old and in 1st grade. He has an IEP. No ASD diagnosis that’s a whole separate rabbit hole in it’s self. We have ran into several scenarios where he takes statements and can’t bend his thinking. He gets very fixated on what words are used and who said them. This is habitually making homework an utter nightmare. We are spending an hour to get two work sheets done. I have reached out to the teacher a few times. We are working on getting some accommodations put into place. The problem is my child won’t turn in his incomplete homework assignments. He …

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  20. This 9th grader has ASD, ADHD, plus. He has no friends and has been bullied for years. Now 1 year in this state/district where they say he doesn’t qualify for Speech and Language (had from k-8 then PA eval said he doesn’t qualify 🤷‍♀️). He speaks loud and fast, his social skills are very poor:(. The social skills instruction district is providing is minimal, vague, and not effective. Of course, district does not agree. Since starting HS in September, he has repeatedly been called things like “stuttering autistic freak”, “you walk like an autistic freak” while acting this out, “effing stupid”, “sped”, etc. School is aware. He has been physically shoved and slap…

  21. This is a 9th grader, one year in this PA district, long history of SLD in written expression, 7% essay comp WIAT4, below basic PSSA, low growth MAP scores between winter-Spring 8th grader, has ASD, ADHD….. He cannot write a paragraph, but they “revised” aka vanished that unmet goal in November. They changed it to “will write a multi paragraph essay using graphic organizers and sentence starters, and revise with editing checklist scoring a 3/4 for Style and Organization”. My emailed concerns 2 months ago included that he cannot articulate what he is learning in writing or verbally. At the meeting this week, they are recommending Honors History specifically d…

  22. Hi guys, Do any of you have an example of present levels for a second-grader in any or all of the areas below and how they were determined? We have an upcoming Initial Evaluation for Eligibility and I can't tell what the student's present levels are for any of the below. I'd also like to know if it's appropriate to ask the team for the present levels. If they don't know the present levels because she "doesn't qualify" then how did they know she didn't qualify? Spelling Reading Comprehension Written Expression Vocabulary Phonemic Awareness Basic Reading Skills Decoding Time Telling Math Problem Solving …

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  23. Started by Natasha,

    My 10yo son was diagnosed with brain cancer this summer. When school started he was not doing great, and school pushed for wheel chair and (as we learned last week) made his aide check water intake, bathroom breaks, etc - none of that was requested by us or listed in the doctor’s note. My kid has been feeling better, and he (with support of his medical team) wants to participate in school more, does not need the wheelchair, can attend PE at his discretion, etc. School has been extremely reluctant to easen the restrictions they themselves put in the first place and even reached out to the medical team over my head asking about my son’s prognosis (!) and advocating for phys…

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  24. Started by Smiley74,

    My District had started to default to virtual meetings, are there any provisions that can force all participants to be in person? I personally dislike when District participants are together in the same office for a zoom and parents are elsewhere. It seems unbalanced and ripe for sidebars parents aren’t privy to. It was convenient to have meetings virtually during covid and convenient now if someone can’t make it to school, but in person is still very much my presence.

  25. Hi there. I’m the parent of a child in Virginia that is currently not attending school due to PTSD generalized to the school. Several events lead to him being very anxious last year and then after he was physically attacked by a group students his symptoms became compounded to the point he was not able to attend school the last few weeks. Upon return this year in the Fall his anxiety was rising and he has now been diagnosed with PTSD. It’s a long story and it is ugly. The ugly part is the school and their constant denial and lack of support in this matter. They say they don’t want to disregard his diagnosis but…. then they they make a comment or an action that does ju…

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