Carolyn Rowlett

Unless someone else knows of an exception, school districts are not required to pay for an IEE provider to attend an IEP meeting. YOU may think they're not qualified to discuss that, but THEY are not going to think/say/admit that. They are going to stand by their evaluations and the staff they have to interpret them. If the school district thought they didn't have the appropriate staff "inhouse" to do a certain evaluation, they would have procured an outside evaluator to do the school eval. This is all theoretical, of course, and may not be the case in reality, but that's the position the school district is going to take. If you really want the IEE provider to attend, here are a few things you can do to reduce the cost of having to pay him/her: 1) Have them attend via Zoom. 2) Ask the IEP team ahead of time to have them go first on the agenda so that they can leave. Or have a specific time at which they participate. That way they're not sitting through the entire meeting racking up their billable hours. 3) Pay them to write up an additional report with anything you think would be helpful to delineate or clarify from the evaluation (specifically referring to present level, IEP goals, and accommodations) which you can provide to the IEP team prior to the meeting.

Hi Christi! I am in Missouri, also! But my answer is based on federal law. It depends on what the language therapy involves. It can be considered "related services" under a 504 Plan and might look like pulling the student out once a week for therapy, to participate in a small group setting, etc. But if the language therapy involves specialized instruction, for that, you would need an IEP. Feel free to provide details of the language therapy in a reply, if you need further clarification. Or contact me offline at crowlett@dyslexiaadvocates.net.

Let me preface this with I am NOT in PA, and I know many people on this site are, so hopefully they will chime in with any relevant PA specifics. In general, paraprofessional can absolutely provide academic supports, which includes instructional support (with some exceptions, maybe, for specialized instruction which requires training, such as reading instruction in Orton-Gillingham). The supports you have indicated in your post seem to be very reasonable accommodations that a para can provide. I believe school districts do have the right to designate which staff members will provide which accommodations, but if the person they designate (are they saying the gen ed teacher should be doing this?) is unable to do so or unable to do so in a timely manner in order for the accommodation to be effective, that might be a better argument. (Stated, of course, in a way that does not criticize the gen ed teacher in any way - it is often the case that gen ed teachers simply don't have the time to make sure all accommodations in all IEP's are addressed. Which is one of the very reasons for a 1:1!) I would ask for an IEP meeting to discuss the practical implications of what they are implementing - your child is not getting chunking and modeling in a way (or at all?) to allow her to process information and participate in the gen ed classroom with her peers (depending on how confrontation you want to get, you could throw in words like "denial of FAPE" and "discrimination based on disability" and "failure to follow the IEP document/accommodations"). Instead of taking on the burden of proof yourself for why a para can do these thing, turn it back on the team and ask "why can't she? Where does it say this in federal or state law/guidelines?" But I agree that it would be helpful to come armed with something specific from PA, so hopefully others will respond to this post.

I understand that this doesn't feel like a typical path, but in my opinion, that's the way you need to treat it if you want to get an IEP - don't give the school any wiggle room to argue "they didn't get the correct request, etc." I don't know all the facts and may be making some incorrect assumptions based on what facts you did provide, but here are my thoughts. The fact that the director of spec ed is requesting the referral email would to me mean a referral for special education. Yet on the other hand he asks for a list of accommodations, which would mean a 504 Plan which shouldn't be under his purview (instead would be a 504 coordinator). So it's a little confusing. But regardless of what he is asking for or why, you need to send an email requesting a referral for special education and it SHOULD be a "typical starting request." Your daughter is not in special education, so anytime you reach out and ask for this it is considered a "starting request." If you don't do it this way, the school might figure out a way to say you never asked for a referral for special education. In your email, reference your outside report (I would also resend it along with your email just to be safe and so it is included with your official request). Unfortunately, following the process (which I HIGHLY suggest) means the school gets to do their own evaluation if they want to (since, if I'm following the fact pattern correctly, they haven't done an evaluation since 5th grade). You may think they won't want to because it's from the same center they use, etc., but don't over think this this and FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE. They may very well say they want to do their own evaluation so they can get an extra 60 days...?? (But I'm not real sure how the timeline would be affected if they accept your eval.) In any event, although it may not feel like it, you're starting from ground zero and need to do everything from that standpoint. As far as the spec ed director asking for your list of accommodations, that's a little strange this early in the process. But you could send one (MAKE IT A SEPARATE EMAIL from your referral email) in response listing the ones set forth in your evaluation with the caveat that "these may not be all that are necessary and more may come up during the IEP process with the entire team." That way he understands that you're not thinking 504 - you're thinking IEP.

Here are my suggestions: 1) In the meeting itself (and I do realize in your specific case, it's too late for this, but just for future reference) whenever there is a refusal of a parent request (or anything else you think should be documented in a PWN), make sure to state very clearly, "Can you include that refusal (or whatever) in the PWN?" Sometimes they're caught off guard and say "yes." Either way, you have them "on record" as either agreeing to include it or not. If they agree and it's not in the PWN you receive, follow up with an email reminding them that they agree to put it in the PWN. [Sidenote: Since it sounds like you're having problems with documentation following a meeting, you might want to consider recording future meetings. Then regardless of the language in the PWN, refusals, etc., are documented. I don't know what state you are in for purposes of telling you whether you have a right to record (you have the right if it's a one-party state), but even if you are in a one-party state, school districts can limit that right in a school board policy, such as requiring 24 hours' advance notice, so make sure you comply with any school policy on this issue.] 2) Although LEA's do have some discretion, they still have to follow the law regarding PWN's. So use the language from the IDEA regarding PWN's, as well as any pertinent state regs or laws. Also check your state Department of Education website, specifically special education compliance department (or just call), to see if they have put out any policies or guidelines regarding PWN's. My state DOE has a very detailed list of what is required to be on a PWN. If any of the IDEA language/state laws or state policies are on point with what you are asking for in the PWN, quote that language in your request for a correction. 3) If it is a PWN that requires parent signature (unfortunately, most don't), write a note below your signature that you disagree that XYY was not set forth on the PWN. That way, XYZ effectively IS on the PWN. 4) ALWAYS follow up with an email after you receive a PWN that you disagree with detailing specifically what you feel is missing or incorrect (including the REASONS BEHIND the decisions - a very common requirement that is often lacking in PWN's, in my opinion) . That's still documentation and the next best thing to having it in a PWN - and will hopefully be enough if your matter ever goes to due process, especially if the LEA wasn't following requirements set forth in the law regarding PWN's.

Seems to me the school would need to try more services (certainly more than 30 minutes a week, for crying out loud!) and accommodations to meet the least restrictive environment requirement before going directly to a self-contained classroom. If the neuropsychologist report is showing him so far behind that she's recommending self-contained, maybe another approach (assuming you want to keep him in the regular education setting) would be to argue the school failed at "child find" and now owe compensatory services - instead of putting him in a self-contained class due to their error.

Totally agree with Jenna's approach. But I'm also curious how the "new language in his IEP" come about??

I'm not in Minnesota and don't know what a "conciliation meeting" is, but I'll assume for purposes of responding to this post that it is a form of IEP meeting. If it's noted in the present levels of the IEP that she doesn't stop what she's doing to use the bathroom even with a watch reminder, it needs to stay in the IEP as an accommodation that the school staff reminds her and makes sure she actually goes to the bathroom. A goal for her to independently go to the bathroom after the watch reminder may be appropriate, but if she hasn't met this goal yet, the accommodation of the school following up should stay until it is met. Are the school's reasons ("do not believe it is necessary" and "she's bigger and has a bigger bladder") substantiated by any data? Ask for that at the upcoming meeting. If they don't have any or if you don't agree with their data, as for an IEE. If you have a provider stating and data to show she needs staff to do this due to a disability, they have to put it in the IEP/IHP or else, you're correct - it's a potential ADA/civil rights violation.

Also, if you do happen to get "lab partner" added as an accommodation, I agree with Backroads that specific language will be difficult. You will probably have to let the school choose the partner and then reconvene as a team if that particular partner isn't working out. But you'll need "proof" as to why it's not working out.

I would suggest first approaching this from the general education classroom, rather than from accommodations in the IEP. If all the other students have lab partners, he should have one, too. It shouldn't have to be an accommodation in his IEP. I would reach out to the science teacher (even though I realize she is uncooperative and this may not get you anywhere) and nicely say, "I realize that my son's lab partner moved away, but is there anyway he can be placed with a lab partner? If there is an odd number of students in the class, could he be placed in a group of three?" If that doesn't get you anywhere, I would then reach out to the principal and get a little more direct. Lay out the issue, then state: "I have tried to resolve this issue by not having to involve the IEP team and/or requesting additional accommodations, but I have been unsuccessful. I am just asking that my student have access to the same classroom experience as the other students in his science class. " Or something to that effect. Hopefully, the principal will get the "hint" that your student is potentially being discriminated against due to his disability. If that doesn't work, then you may have to request an IEP meeting add an accommodation. The potential sticking point with that (and one reason why I suggest trying to work this out in the gen ed setting) is that you will need data to support that he needs a lab partner. It is much easier (or should be) to just say "hey, everybody else has a lab partner to help complete labs, why shouldn't my son?"

It sounds like they're just strongly discouraging this, rather than flat out denying it (which hopefully means they know the law). The parents need to respond to Notices of Meeting that they are bringing their advocate. If they get a response in return either discouraging this or flat out denying it, they need to respond "thank you for your suggestion, but we will still be bringing our advocate as the IDEA allows parents to bring whoever they want to the IEP meeting."

Hi Christina. I advocate in Missouri, specializing in specific learning disabilities (particularly, dyslexia), but also am familiar with ADHD and other disabilities, which often go hand in hand with specific learning disabilities. In Missouri, the discrepancy model is only used for determining eligibility under the category of specific learning disability. This lack of discrepancy between IQ and academic scores does NOT affect her eligibility under other disabilities, such as Intellectual Disorder (low IQ), Other Health Impairment (ADHD), or Young Child with a Developmental Delay. It appears that your daughter might very well qualify under any of these categories. My recommendations are as follows: 1) Don't give up on the public school just yet. In my opinion, they haven't done the proper evaluations yet and could be "forced" to do more. 2) So my second recommendation is what Sharon suggested - ask for an IEE (Individual Educational Evaluation). Make sure it is done in all areas of suspected disabilities, which it appears (but I don't have all the facts) the school district's evaluation did not do. 3) As far as dyslexia, I wouldn't rule that out as a possibility just yet. The definition and diagnosis of dyslexia is very complicated. Although rare, it is possible to have both a low IQ and dyslexia. Plus, what kind of IQ test was administered? If she does have dyslexia, a non-verbal IQ test should be done, and most school districts don't do that. 4) Ask for a 504 evaluation. At a minimum, she needs accommodations. And getting her back on an IEP (I assume you're beyond the 10 days of the school district's notification that they were exiting her from services?) will take time. A 504 Plan can be implemented much quicker. 5) Depending on what the IEE shows in terms of dyslexia, reading struggles, etc., if you decide to go the home-school route, I would suggest reaching out to a tutor certified in Orton-Gillingham or another recognized multi-sensory, structured literacy program. I am happy to expand/explain if you would like to contact me offline. Carolyn Rowlett (crowlett@dyslexiaadvocates.net or 816-547-5476)

If you have data showing the need for 1:1 instruction, it's a totally reasonable request and something public schools can absolutely provide. But an easier way to get this would be to show he is not making sufficient progress with the instruction that is currently being provided, which prompts a change in services. Get specifics in the IEP; i.e., "receives in instruction in small group setting with no more than 6 (or whatever number the team decides on) students." When that doesn't work after 6 weeks/a quarter's worth of progress monitoring, ask that the services be changed to no more than 3 students. If that doesn't work, then 2, etc., until you ask for 1:1 instruction. The "ask" has to be based on data and lack of progress with services currently being used.

You are correct! But see the link below for help in making this argument. https://www.makespecialeducationwork.com/blog/what-gives-parents-the-right-to-request-a-team-meeting

I'll preface this with unfortunately, I don't have time to look up the law and department of education guidelines in NC right now, but wanted to respond in general. It's never "too early" to schedule an IEP meeting. It may be too early to schedule the annual meeting, but parents can request an IEP meeting at any time. Yes, it should be in writing. Also, it should not just be a request to the special education teacher (that might be construed as just requesting a "regular" meeting with a teacher). It should be a request to the entire IEP team. If the parent doesn't know the entire team members, copy the principal on the request and ask that the request to forwarded to all IEP team members. I would also advise having her put in the request for a meeting specifics as to why she wants to change the IEP to a less restrictive environment. If she's wanting to make changes to the IEP document, she needs to have data supporting this request - even if the data is just observations of the ABA case manager, etc. However, an evaluation would hold more weight. If it has been more than a year since the last school evaluation, she can request another one because she feels her son has improved. If it hasn't been a year yet, she can request an IEE.

I would normally say you probably can't request a specific fidget, as long as others are provided that satisfy the need. But with you having a formal recommendation letter (I assume from a provider, doctor, etc.) that does give your request more weight. However, schools only have to consider outside evaluations and recommendations, so they may be within their rights to refuse this. I would ask for a PWN on the school's denial. If this truly is the only fidget that addresses your child's needs, start documenting any instances you become aware of at school where the inability to access this fidget has affected your child's FAPE. Then you might have to request mediation to sort it out if the school doesn't budge. Without knowing the severity of this issue, it's hard to say if this is an issue worth going to mediation over. Maybe others will chime in.

Also, when a school district says things like "based on the principles for practice guidance provided by the national association of school nurses" and "per other sources," ASK FOR SPECIFICS. Can you send me a link to those guidelines? What other sources?

I'll start with a general answer to your last question. It appears in Minnesota that parents do not have to sign off on any IEP's (with the exception of the initial IEP that begins the special education services). So if that's what you mean by "sign off on the new proposal," the school district can implement the IEP without you "signing off." However, I'm a little confused. You state you received a "draft IEP" and "proposed IEP," but also a PWN. How can there be a PWN if the IEP is only in draft form at this point? Is this for an annual IEP revision? Has a meeting been schedule? If not, you need to request one. You have the right to participate in the drafting of revisions to the IEP before implementation and receive a PWN detailing what you asked for at that meeting that was denied. As far as the IHP, I have included a link below to a website that addresses these in detail. I only did a quick review, but one thing I saw that stood out was that the IHP should be included in the related services section of the IEP because it contains school-related nursing and health services. Since most of the requirements related to IHP's are left to the states, I have also included a link specific to Minnesota law and policies. https://undivided.io/resources/individualized-health-plan-ihp-in-an-iep-1380 https://arcminnesota.org/resource/arc-guide-to-individualized-health-care-plan/

I will preface this with I've never come across this issue and a quick search didn't turn up much. I'll also preface it with the fact that it's hard to advise on this one without reading the actual IEP, services, placement, not knowing if the student is home-schooled with IEP services provided or attends the public school, etc. But my gut instinct tells me that if the parent decides to pull the student for travel and makes implementation of the IEP impossible, that would be on the parent. However, I'm a little confused about the virtual option. Is the school district saying THEIR providers are not certified in that state? That actually might make sense and "be a thing." Hopefully someone else has some ideas or has run across this before.

A correction to my most recent post. I meant "You have some time to think about the IEE." Not "IEP."

You have some time to think about the IEP. It might be worth it in case it uncovers something besides ADHD that is causing his "incidents" and reactions to social drama, teasing, bullying, etc. In the meantime, get started on the 504. You can probably accomplish what you want within that document. Put in an accommodation that when he experiences something and feels it building up to an unacceptable reaction (social drama, teasing, bullying, etc.) that he can go to the school counselor. I would hope that would be available for all students, but you better get it in writing.

My thoughts are below, listed in the order of your questions. 1. IEP's should be drafted for one year, not three. There should be an annual review after which a new IEP should be put in place for the next year cycle. Besides the dates, there should be changes in present levels and most likely goals, as well. What doesn't have to happen for three years is an re-evaluation (unless either the school district or parent request one sooner and as long as it has been at least one year since the last evaluation). Re-evaluations are not considered "evaluations for qualifying for services," so it that is how your school district is referring to them, that is incorrect. A student does not have to re-qualify for services. However, a re-evaluation might provide data showing an exit from services is warranted. To answer your question: no, a re-evaluation (regardless of when done) does not "negate" the current IEP. The evaluation results must be explained to the parents and an IEP meeting held to determine if the IEP should be amended or (if applicable based on the data) if the student should be existed from services. Until then the IEP stays in place and must be followed. 2. There is no requirement that a parent sign a re-evaluation. However, the school cannot "move forward" with exiting a child from special education services until the results are explained (and sent/given) to you, an IEP meeting is held, and if the decision is made to exit the child from special education services, a Prior Written Notice is sent notifying you of this action and explaining in detail the reasons behind the decision. At that point, you can request mediation and/or file for due process to invoke "stay put" (the current IEP must remain in place). Also, you can request an Independent Educational Evaluation (IEE) if you do not agree with the school's evaluation. The school can ask why you disagree, but by law, you do not have to give a reason. The school must grant the request for an IEE or take you to due process to show why they are denying the request (so such requests are usually granted). 3. To answer your third question (after you qualified it with a follow-up email), "access the general curriculum" refers to the requirement that not only must a child have a disability, but that disability must also affect his ability to receive an education. So in the case of ADHD, if the child's behavior is limiting his access to classroom learning (because he is being sent to the principal's office repeatedly, having multiple suspensions, etc., or even because his inattention means he is not able to grasp the material being taught), then he should have goals to work on this. It is important to note that the behavior must be tied to the disability and must be affecting his education. 4. Yes, an IEE might help if the school is relying on grades to say he no longer needs services. Grades are way too subjective to use to exit a child from special education. It might tie in how not having "good social relations" can affect his access to an education.

Hi Christi. I'm an advocate in Missouri, but unfortunately not an expert in ABA therapy. I would suggest you reach out to the Missouri Disability Empowerment Foundation (MoDE). They offer free advice. I also know of a paid advocate in Missouri who is more familiar with this area than I am. You can contact me at the email address below if you want her contact information. (MoDE also offers grants to help pay for advocacy services.) Carolyn Rowlett crowlett@dyslexiaadvocates.net

And if they refuse to do an evaluation, ask for an Independent Educational Evaluation (IEE).

You should find the answers to these questions on you state department of education's website, special education division.